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[[File:Capital_Sides.JPG|thumb|Center|300px|The Capital Sides of the [[Royal Crown Coalition]], from [http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=%2F086.jpg Page 86] ]]
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=Proposed Canon=

A Side is a group of characters and [[Units]] involved in the conflict in [[Erfworld]] and is led by a single [[Ruler]], which is a King if the Unit is [[Royal]], or an [[Overlord]] if not. The Side includes all Units, [[City|cities]], and [[Movement|terrain]] under the leadership of that Ruler.

There is a distinction between [[Capital_Side|capital sides]] and [[Natural_Allies|other sides]]{{erf|1|086}}.

==Capital sides==

Capital sides (as the name implies) have [[capital]]s and are governed by a [[Ruler]]. A capital side can also own [[city|cities]] other than the capital. If the [[Ruler]] of a city is a [[Royal]], the city may produce Noble and Royal [[Units]]. Royal sides sometimes split off into new sides.{{erf|1|079a|Parson's Klog #9}}

===Known capital sides:===

* [[Carpudlians]]
* '''[[Charlescomm]]'''
* [[Dagwood]]
* '''[[Faq]]''' (destroyed by [[Gobwin Knob]]), now reestablished by [[Jillian]] under the protection of [[Transylvito]]
* [[Foxmud]]
* '''[[Gobwin Knob]]'''
* [[Haggar]]
* [[Hobbittm]]
* [[Hyatt]]
* '''[[Jetstone]]'''
* [[Jitterati]]
* [[Milquetoast]] (destroyed by [[Gobwin Knob]]){{erf|1|034}}
* [[Napster]] (destroyed)
* [[Sofa King]]
* '''[[Transylvito]]'''
* [[Unaroyal]] (self destructed to prevent further [[decrypt| decryption]] by Gobwin Knob) {{blog|2009|10|summer-updates-043}}

==Other sides==

Non-capital sides (also referred to as [[Natural_Allies|natural allies]]) have no capital, no cities, no royals.{{erf|1|079a|Parson's Klog #9}} They do, however, have their own treasuries and can form long semi-permanent alliances. If there is a way for Natural Allies to become a Capital Side, it has not been stated in the comic.

===Known natural allies Sides:===

* [[Elves]]
** [[Altruist Elves]]
** [[Eager Elves]]
** [[Lofty Elves]]
** [[Luckless Elves]]
** [[Schlemiel Elves]]
** [[Shady Elves]]
** [[Superfluous Elves]]
** [[Tardy Elves]]
** [[Woodsy Elves]]
* [[Giant]]s
** [[Western Giants]] (natural allies to [[Faq]], formerly [[Jitterati]])
* [[Gobwins]] (used to be natural allies to [[Gobwin Knob]])
* [[Hobgobwins]] (natural allies to [[Gobwin Knob]])
* [[Marbits]] (seem to be natural allies to [[Jetstone]])
* [[Witches]]
** [[Sand Witches]] (natural allies to [[Dagwood]])
** [[Man Witches]] (natural allies to [[Dagwood]])

==Barbarians==

It does not seem that [[Barbarians]] are a single side; rather, "Barbarian" is a catch all term used to describe [[Units]] without a side or neutral cities without a [[Ruler]]. If Rulers or their [[Heir]]s lose their capital they become [[Barbarians]]. All of the permanent inhabitants of the [[Magic Kingdom]] are [[Barbarian]] [[Casters]].

[[Barbarians]] have to rely on either [[Farm|farming]], [[Wildlife|hunting]], or [[mercenary]] work to pay [[upkeep]] of their [[Units]]. They can form alliances with [[Capital_Sides|capital sides]].

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LIAB Text 42

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The remaining archers, knights and soldiers snapped to attention and/or saluted as King [[Slately]] walked near. His procession disturbed them in a wake of little circles, so that he passed like a water strider, stepping upon the unbroken tension.

A door was opened for him by a scraping guard, and he went wordlessly into an empty staging room. Air defense was meant to muster here, but they were all assembled upon the tower now. The wide, wood-floored chamber was starkly vacant.

"I'll not be disturbed," he told the guard. "On pain of disbandment. Even the [[tramennis|Prince]] can wait."

"Yes, Sire!" The guard took Slately's merest glance at the door as the order it was, and pulled it shut behind him.

At the center of the room was a single block table, and one simple wooden chair. The King walked toward it, musing upon [[Fate]] and furniture. There could have been ten tables and sixty chairs in this room. Had he wanted to address his men at this point, there probably have been.

But one of his subjects had chosen to place in this room a single setting for one.

Whoever it was, they surely had some reason which made sense at the time. Yet Slately understood that in some subtle way they were carrying out the [[Titan]]s' will. People of import such as himself, who proceeded through their lives directing and driving the wheels of Erfworld, so often stepped upon a scene which was ready-made for what they would do. The ''Titans'' had set this table for him now.

He sat at his humble place, and removed his crown.

From within his robes he took out a brass coin, a token of the realm. His men traded them among themselves for small items and services, or gambled with them, but they had no value in real [[Shmuckers]]. Oh, if only.

He dropped it into the crown and waved his scepter over it three times.

"Pinochet," he intoned. The coin was made to disappear.

He placed the burdensome crown back on his pate and waited, both with impatience and with dread. He drummed his fingers, and glanced around the tabletop. It was covered with odd items. That awful [[Ace Hardware|Dollamancer's]] things. Had that buffoon really wasted juice without orders on this critical turn, just to make another "accessory?" He'd see that the caster was punished. That was, assuming [[Jetstone]] would be victorious this day.

Slately intended to see that they were. Yes, the truth beast still stalked him. But another truth might be his salvation, a truth he'd long denied.

He had discovered in his last living son a sort of Royal role model, strange as that might seem. Foppish little [[Tramennis]]? Truly? But the Prince cared for naught but the preservation of the side, in an understated, focused way that shook Slately from the throne of his complacency. He was, in truth, many hexes closer to the Royal ideal than Slately had ever been.

The King picked up some kind of odd green egg-shaped object with a ring at the top, and looked at it in the light of the room's sole orb. Useless. He placed it back down and pushed it away. [[Holly Shortcake]] would not have fabricated such things. She was such a delight.

If he croaked today, might he be allowed to see her again in the hereafter? Would the Titans judge him so kindly? Could it be his final reward to know love again? Not unless he was worthy, he supposed. Not unless he was truly ''worthy''.

A tickle upon his brain, then [[Bunny]], [[Transylvito]]'s spooky [[Thinkamancer]], "Your Royal Highness King Slately of Jetstone, His Royal Highness [[Don King]] of Transylvito." The words were only in his mind; she never spoke aloud.

Don's image floated before him, seated as Slately was. Concerned. Serious. But as ever, calm. "You all right?" he asked, after a moment's hesitation, "I watched that [[Croakamancy]] maneuver."

"So far, I am well," said Slately. "But I now must do something that is beyond my reach. I require your help, Don."

Don King nodded. "Spill it."

"I want to promote my son to [[heir]]."

Don tilted his head in consideration. "Understandable," he said noncommittally.

Slately pursed his lips. "I'm not sure that it is."

Don raised an eyebrow and the corner of his mouth twitched. He looked prepared to say something, then seemed to think better of it and shook his head. "Enlighten me, then."

Slately raised himself up in the chair. "You were right, Don. He ''is'' quite a good general. At present, he's gone down the tower to secure my escape from the city, and he plans to fight the invader only once I am clear."

Don nodded again. "Smart."

"Oh he is. He's very much so. So who cares if he's a— If his [[Signamancy]] is less...than manly." Slately cleared his throat. "I certainly don't. Any more. He ought to lead."

Don stared at Slately for a long moment, then let this pass and said simply, "He ''is'' leading."

"Yes, but..."

"Slately, if you're out of the city, your side will survive this. That's the important thing."

Slately shook his head, struggling for the words.

"I know," said Don, raising a hand. "The city falls, and you'll lose the heir you're popping. You may not be able to do anything about that, though. You have to face the facts."

"I ''am'' facing facts!" said Slately.

"Then face this one. We can't give you that kinda money. It'd leave us a couple turns away from an empty treasury ourselves." Don's voice had a certain granite texture, which Slately knew meant there was no room to negotiate.

He took a moment before speaking again. "I am facing facts," he repeated, softly. "My friend. Hard, hard facts." The two rulers looked at one another for a long moment. "My son is more of a man than I am. All my sons have been. And you always knew it. Did you not?"

Don said nothing.

"You never would listen to me about Royal ideals," Slately said, frowning. "Honor, sacrifice, dignity, decorum, station...loyalty, bravery... You were too polite to me, Don. You couldn't simply say I was no Royal ideal myself."

Don raised his eyebrows at this. His permanent squint showed a hint of eyeball for once. He appeared genuinely surprised to hear Slately put any blame upon himself, for anything. But he still remained silent.

"You've changed your mind since the [[Battle for Gobwin Knob]]," said Slately. "But I haven't changed. I thought I'd finally convinced you."

"You did," said Don, but he had covered his lips with his knuckle.

"No," said Slately. "What was it, really? The threat of the [[Arkenpliers]]?"

Don blinked. "It was that," he shrugged. "We're clearly in big trouble here, arright? It was a lot of things. It ''was'' you, partly. But really, it was [[Queen Bea|Bea]]."

"Bea," whispered Slately, mid-sigh. The Queen of [[Unaroyal]] had seen her daughter felled and decrypted. As her side was about to fall, Queen Bea sent a few last words to Don King, then wiped out her entire side by stepping into her portal and disbanding. "I haven't wanted to talk of her with you. You must know why. I...haven't felt worthy of speaking her name."

Don stiffened. His eyes went icy. "Yeah, well. It was a hard thing she did."

Slately found his fists striking the table, "It was a Noble thing she did!" His voice clenched up and the final word of his sentence came out airy. He swallowed. "We would be fighting her former units now, if she hadn't... I couldn't see how she could do it." He felt a sudden hotness in his eyes.

Don King shook his head, very sadly. "She believed. That's sacrifice. That's what Nobility ''is''. As many times as you've preached it to me, you should know."

"I know!" Slately shouted again, and the image of Don went watery. "I want to be that— I want to be that way now, Don."

"What, disband yerself? You're kidding."

"Nohoho!" exclaimed Slately, in something between a sob and a laugh. "It's not that hopeless here yet. Not yet." He sniffed, and smiled bitterly. "No, I must promote my son. And then I will order him out of the city, and lead the army into the [[garrison]] myself."

Don leaned back and tilted his head, his lips pressed tightly together. "That's crazy," he said.

Slately shrugged. "It's what I have to do," he said. "I think perhaps this whole war of attunement must have been the Titans' way to make us realize how far we have fallen from the Royal Mandate. But if not, it is still something that I must do. Personally. I want Tramennis to be King, should I fall."

Don's face betrayed nothing, but Slately felt as if his old friend were looking at him for the first time.

"Help me, Don," Slately pleaded, in a hoarse whisper. "This is what the war's about. Help me to honor Bea. Help me to honor ''honor itself''. What else is there to fight for?"

The Transylvitian King folded his hands, his index fingers extended and touched to his lips. The question hung in the air. He took a deep breath through his nose, and let it out slowly.

"I'm gonna need you...to agree to some ''very'' tight terms on this loan, King."
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Appearances

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==Generally==
This page catalogs the number of appearances each [[Characters|character]] makes in the strip. Only named characters and characters with multiple appearances are cataloged. If a character is a generic creature, like a [[gwiffon]] or a [[dwagon]], it is only listed if it is absolutely certain that the specific creature has appeared multiple times. This page was adapted by a similar page on the ErfWorld forums at [http://www.giantitp.com Giant in the Playground]. An appearance is any visual or audial appearance by a character, such as [[Charlie]]'s off-screen instructions to his [[Archons]], or when [[Jillian]] appears in pixellated form in [[Stanley]]'s war room. Parson has "'''+20'''" after their appearance numbers to reflect his 20 appearances in the mock-site at [http://www.hamstard.com Hamstard.com]. Hamstard has "'''+22'''" after his appearance numbers to also reflect his appearance in the [http://www.erfworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/NewsItem_StartOfIssue2.jpg Comic] displayed at the start of issue 2, and the December 18, 2010 news item. Wanda has a "'''+1'''" after her appearance numbers to reflect the [http://www.erfworld.com/2010/12/merry-christmas/ "Christmas gift" news item from 2010].

==Most Recent Appearances: Book 2 – Text Update 42==
: Bunny, Don King, Slately

==Roster==
'''Twelve Most Common Characters'''
#[[Parson Gotti]] (150'''+20''')
#[[Hamstard]] (119'''+22''')
#[[Wanda Firebaugh]] (94'''+1''')
#[[Jillian Zamussels]] (84)
#[[Prince Ansom|Ansom]] (77)
#[[Stanley the Tool|Stanley]] (72)
#[[Maggie]] (67)
#[[Sizemore Rockwell]] (60)
#[[Jack Snipe]] (48)
#[[Tramennis]] (39)
#[[Vinny Doombats]] (39)
#[[Bogroll]] (36)

'''34 appearances'''
: [[Arkenpliers]].

'''28 appearances'''
: [[Jillian Zamussels|Jillian's]] Second [[Gwiffon]].

'''27 appearances'''
: [[Ossomer]].

'''23 appearances'''
: [[Lady Sylvia Lazarus|Sylvia Lazarus]].

'''20 appearances'''
: [[Arkenhammer]], [[Jaclyn]], [[Sir Webinar|Webinar]].

'''19 appearances'''
: [[Caesar Borgata]], [[Charlie]]'s Brunette [[Archon]], [[King Slately|Slately]].

'''18 appearances'''
: [[Charlie]].

'''17 appearances'''
: [[Charlie]]'s Blonde [[Archon]], [[Duncan Scone]], [[Jillian Zamussels|Jillian's]] [[Megalogwiff]].

'''16 appearances'''
: [[Jack Snipe|Jack's]] Blue [[Dwagon]], [[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda's]] Red Plated [[Dwagon]].

'''15 appearances'''
: [[Dora]].

'''14 appearances'''
: [[Stanley]]'s Plated [[Red dwagon|Red Dwagon]].

'''13 appearanes'''
: [[Duke Adam Antium|Adam Antium]], [[Dewy Tulips]], [[Don King]], [[Vurp]].

'''12 appearances'''
: [[Blue Warlord]], [[Duncan Scone|Duncan's]] [[Megalogwiff]].

'''11 appearances'''
: [[Manpower the Temporary]].

'''10 appearances'''
: [[Duke Nozzle]].

'''9 appearances'''
: [[Bunny]], [[Misty]], [[Lady Sylvia Lazarus|Sylvia's]] Blue [[Dwagon]].

'''8 appearances'''
: [[Dora]]'s Purple [[Sourmander]], [[Leeroy Jenkins]], [[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda's]] [[Unipegataur]].

'''7 appearances'''
: [[Janis]], [[Leeroy]]'s Red [[Dwagon]], [[Manpower the Temporary|Manpower]]'s Red [[Dwagon]], [[Lady Phat-Singh]], [[Superfluous Warlord]].

'''6 appearances'''
: [[Leather Valese]], [[Phat-Singh]]'s Pink [[Dwagon]], Uncroaked [[Unipegataur]]s, [[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda's]] Pink [[Dwagon]].

'''5 appearances'''
: [[Arkendish]], [[Broadway Tony]], [[Cubbins]], [[Jillian Zamussels|Jillian's]] First [[Gwiffon]], Red-Shirted [[Transylvito|Transylvitian]] [[Warlord]], [[Sammy|Prince Sammy]], [[Tarfu]], [[Vanna]].

'''4 appearances'''
: [[Ace Hardware]], [[Prince Ansom|Ansom's]] [[Spidew]], Bald [[Transylvito|Transylvitian]] [[Warlord]], Blonde [[Transylvito|Transylvitian]] [[Warlord]], [[Lloyd]], Mario-like [[Transylvito|Transylvitian]] [[Warlord]], [[Lady Sylvia Lazarus|Sylvia's]] Red [[Dwagon]], [[Vurp]]'s Blue [[Dwagon]].

'''3 appearances'''
: [[Al Frappacino]], [[Benjamin]], [[Doombat|Bat]] *3, [[Ford]], Green Bear Cloth [[Golem]], [[Isaac]], Net-Carrying [[Archon]]s, Pink [[Dwagon]] in forest hex, Purple [[Dwagon]] in forest hex, Spock-like [[Caster]], [[Vanna|Vanna's]] [[Megalogwiff]], Yellow [[Dwagon]] in forest hex, [[Zhopa]].

'''2 appearances'''
: [[Archduke Ferdinand]], [[Ashna]], [[Carl]], Cat [[Tchotchke]], [[Charlie]]'s Ansom Liaison, [[Charlie]]'s Receptionist to Jillian, [[Charlie]]'s Receptionist to Parson, Dr. Strange-like [[Caster]], Elder [[Jetstone]] [[Warlord]], [[Ensign Toast]], Giraffe Cloth [[Golem]], Jetstone Officer with Thick Eyebrows, [[King Saline IV]], Male Transylvitian Courtiers, [[Manpower the Temporary|Manpower]]'s [[Gobwin]] Advisor, [[Marbit]] Allied [[Commander]], [[Marie]], [[Mung]], [[Pierce]], Pink Bear Cloth [[Golem]], Red-Bloused Transylvito Woman, [[Ross]], Slately's Cloaked Advisor, [[Takashi]], [[Tramennis]]' Kangaroo Cloth [[Golem]], [[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda's]] Green [[Dwagon]], [[Webinar]]'s Unicorn [[Tchotchke]], Wicked Witch-like [[Caster]], [[Wrigley]].

'''Named characters with 1 appearance'''
: [[Banana]], [[Captain Archer]], [[Captain Overpants]], [[Duke Lacrosse]], Fish Called [[Wanda]], [[Fud]], [[Hilary]], [[Irony]], [[King Banhammer]], [[Queen Bea]], [[Uhura]].

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=== Issue 1: Meet the Jetstones ===
====Day 1 (75 [[AW]]) ====
=====[[Gobwin Knob]]'s turn=====
<ol>
<li>[[LIAB 1|Page 1]]: [[Stanley]] heads to the Situation Room to oversee the confrontation between [[Ansom]] and [[Ossomer]]; [[Parson]] shows up fashionably late.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 2|Page 2]]: A little trip down the [[Expository Bridge]]</li>
<li>[[LIAB 3|Page 3]]: [[Ansom]] and [[Ossomer]] [[parley]] on [[Expository Bridge]]; [[Tramennis]] is amusing.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 4|Page 4]]: [[Ansom]] and [[Ossomer]] discuss Ansom's tactical skills. The battle begins.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 5|Page 5]]: [[Wanda]] consults with [[Parson]] on how to proceed. Suspecting a trap, he recommends further reconnaissance.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 6|Page 6]]: [[Wanda]] reveals her "grab-and-go" recon plan, as [[Ansom]] chafes under [[Parson|Parson's]] shadow and the [[Archons]] make use of their assets.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 7|Page 7]]: Dirty old man repeats himself. [[Archons]]' lighting proves to be more [[Shockmancy|shocking]] than their nudity. [[Jetstone]] brothers in a [[Tramennis|tremendously]] [[Ossomer|unawesome]] situation.
<li>[[LIAB 8|Page 8]]: [[Ansom]] is invisible, [[Ossomer]] is angry, [[Tramennis]] plays with bubble gum, and quadrupled arrows are quadrupled.
<li>[[LIAB Text 1|Text Update 1]]: [[Sizemore]] visits the [[Magic Kingdom]] and reflects on recent events.
<li>[[LIAB 9|Page 9]]: [[Wanda]] helps [[Ansom]] subdue [[Ossomer]]. They retreat with their hostage.
<li>[[LIAB Text 2|Text Update 2]]: [[Sizemore]] and [[Janis]] discuss [[Parson]], war, and friendship.
<li>[[LIAB 10|Page 10]]: [[Ansom]] and [[Ossomer]] discuss evil, [[Wanda]] shows off her [[Arkenpliers|toy]]; Ossomer gives her an unpleasant surprise.
<li>[[LIAB Text 3|Text Update 3]]: [[Transylvito]] parties while watching the war, [[Caesar]] very carefully ignores [[Bunny]]; the lot of them sobers up unexpectedly.
<li>[[LIAB 11|Page 11]]: [[Wanda]] suggests cost-cutting measures vis a vis [[Jack]], but [[Stanley]] puts his foot down.
<li>[[LIAB Text 4|Text Update 4]]: [[Vurp]] gets in touch with his inner [[Hobgobwin]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 5|Text Update 5]]: A [[doombat|bat]] and a [[Bunny]] can reach places other [[Unit]]s cannot scratch.
<li>[[LIAB 12|Page 12]]: [[Tramennis]] wants to scratch his nose; [[Jillian]] prepares to scratch an old [[Wanda|itch]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 6|Text Update 6]]: [[Jillian]] skulks across the land while she sulks about her band. [[Titans]] [[disband]]!
<li>[[LIAB 13|Page 13]]: [[Parson]] runs some [[mathamancy|depressing odds]] and [[Faq|frightfully annoying questions]] past [[Wanda]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 7|Text Update 7]]: [[Prince]] [[Sammy]] is ready to [[rock]]; but can he [[Fate|roll]]?
<li>[[LIAB 14|Page 14]]: [[Parson]] obeys his [[Stanley|master]]; [[Ansom]] obeys his [[Wanda|mistress]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 8|Text Update 8]]: [[Lady Sylvia Lazarus]] internally poetizes on being called back from [[Croaking|death]].
<li>[[LIAB 15|Page 15]]: [[Tramennis]] observes as [[Wanda]] and [[Ossomer]] discuss the differences between sticks and carrots.
<li>[[LIAB Text 9|Text Update 9]]: [[King]] [[Slately]] counts his [[Rob_Balder#Outright_Lies|lies]], and argues with [[Retconjuration|truth]].
<li>[[LIAB 16|Page 16]]: [[Jillian]] parlays with [[Wanda]], and they decide (as usual) to do things the Hard Way.
<li>[[LIAB Text 10|Text Update 10]]: The [[Jack|eyemancer]] looks back to when the [[Wanda|naughtymancer]] foreshadowed.
<li>[[LIAB 17|Page 17]]: [[Jillian]] and [[Wanda]] get high on the field of battle; have a hard time expressing their [[WandaJillian|feelings]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 11|Text Update 11]]: [[Duncan Scone]] does some [[Date-a-mancy|matchmaking]] for the upcoming battle, expresses his doubts about [[Jillian]]'s choice of dates.
<li>[[LIAB 18|Page 18]]: [[Jillian]] makes [[Wanda]] an offer that would leave no [[Side]] [[Turning|unturned]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 12|Text Update 12]]: [[Ossomer]] finds a [[Duncan Scone|scone]] a bit tough to chew.
<li>[[LIAB 19|Page 19]]: [[Jillian]] and [[Wanda]] wave their [[Tools]] of [[Fate]] at each other.
<li>[[LIAB Text 13|Text Update 13]]: [[Maggie]] conserves [[juice]] and reports an irregularity in the [[battle]] plan.
<li>[[LIAB 20|Page 20]]: [[Jillian]] brings [[Charlie]]'s [[Arkendish|tool]] into her argument with [[Wanda]], and goes to have a chat with [[Vanna]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 14|Text Update 14]]: [[Slately]] tries to take solace in [[Queen Bea]]'s sacrifice, and is rather forcefully shushed.
<li>[[LIAB 21|Page 21]]: The [[Slately|King]] of [[Jetstone|Radishes]] asks about the bidding; the [[Jillian|Queen]] pulls an ace out of her hat; and the [[Vanna|Turnamancer]] calls [[turn|time]].</ol>

=====[[Royal Crown Coalition]]'s turn=====
<ol start="36"><li>[[LIAB Text 15|Text Update 15]]: [[Tramennis]] and [[Adam Antium]] discuss the purpose of [[Music]] and never ending [[Battle|War]] as they wait for the end.
<li>[[LIAB 22|Page 22]]: The [[turn]]'s end turns heads as [[Vanna]] prepares another turn when [[Jillian]] is finally sure who she came here for.
<li>[[LIAB Text 16|Text Update 16]]: [[Don King]] makes it clear that this is his palace, and not [[Caesar]]'s.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 23|Page 23]]: [[Jillian|Jill]] wears the previously broken crown and offers [[Jack]] a lift [[Faq|home]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 17|Text Update 17]]: [[Charlie]] tries to understand [[Jillian]], but has to address a developing situation.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 24|Page 24]]: When [[Tramennis]] met [[Jillian]]; what happens when you [[croak]] the [[croakamancer]]?
<li>[[LIAB Text 18|Text Update 18]]: [[Charlie]]'s [[Archons]] spy on [[Sammy]]; [[Sammy]] shoots [[Charlie]]'s [[Archons]]; [[Charlie]] makes [[Sammy]] think of home.
<li>[[LIAB 25|Page 25]]: [[Sammy]] reports for — ahem — [[duty]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 19|Text Update 19]]: On [[Gobwin Knob]]'s [[turn]], Ansom rallies the troops; on [[Royal Crown Coalition|the Coalition]]'s turn, he prepares to meet [[Jillian]].
<li>[[LIAB 26|Page 26]]: [[Sammy]] crosses that [[Expository Bridge|bridge]] when he comes to it, and [[Tramennis]] discovers how much [[Jillian]] does not know.
<li>[[LIAB Text 20|Text Update 20]]: [[Wanda]] lets her hair down and calls for a team huddle with [[Ossomer|a side of beef]], [[Jack Snipe|a fool]], and [[Lady Sylvia Lazarus|a burning woman]].
<li>[[LIAB 27|Page 27]]: [[Sammy]] moves in for the [[Ansom|kill]], but [[Jillian]] proves to be a fatal distraction.
<li>[[LIAB 28|Page 28]]: [[Parson]] and [[Stanley]], and [[Jillian]] and [[Ansom]], discuss [[Ansom|Ansom's]] [[fate]].
<li>[[LIAB 29|Page 29]]: When [[Vanna]] has trouble [[turning]] [[Ansom]]'s head, [[Jillian]] smothers him with love.
<li>[[LIAB Text 21|Text Update 21]]: [[Jack|The fool]] chuckles at the stone tied around the ankles of [[royal|royalty]].
<li>[[LIAB 30|Page 30]]: [[Jillian]] prepares to steam roll a path [[Faq|home]] and arrange her [[Ansom|lover]]'s [[turning|return]] .
<li>[[LIAB Text 22|Text Update 22]]: The [[Ford|Ford ranger]] pickups responsibility to at least scratch the [[Jetstone|rocks]] before being crushed by them.
<li>[[LIAB 31|Page 31]]: [[Tramennis|Two]] [[Jillian|Queens]] discuss who is a [[Toolism|toolist]], whilst [[Ansom|others]] [[Adam_Antium|disapprove]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 23|Text Update 23]]: [[Tramennis]] leads a [[golem|teddy bear]]'s picnic to breakfast on [[Ford|salad]].
<li>[[LIAB 32|Page 32]]: [[Ford]] gets crushed, [[Maggie]] requests and gets permission to
make a [[Suggestion Spell|suggestion]], and [[Parson]] gets back his job as [[chief warlord]].
<li>[[LIAB Text 24|Text Update 24]]: [[Wrigley]]'s life achieves a glorious climax as his spear finally enters some flesh.
<li>[[LIAB 33|Page 33]]: The [[Parson|master mind]] and [[Maggie|mind controller]] exchange a few angry thoughts on the subject of ethics - the latter wins and the former has an ugly thought.</ol>

=== Issue 2: It's Raining Men ===
====Day 1 (75 [[AW]]) continued ====
=====[[Royal Crown Coalition]]'s turn continued =====
<ol start="58"><li>[[LIAB 33a|Page 33a]]: [[Parson Gotti|Parson]] reviews what he has learned about just what options he has while off-turn.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 33b|Page 33b]]: [[Parson Gotti|Parson]]'s notes continue with details of the Garrison/Airspace zone boundary.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 34|Page 34]]: [[Don King|The Don]] pops a recap into [[Caesar Borgata|Caesar]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 25|Text Update 25]]: [[Tramennis]] weighs up the [[banana|weight]] flying above him as well as that upon his [[chief_warlord|shoulders]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB 35|Page 35]]: The [[Don King|King of Bats]] counsels reason, while the [[King Slately|King of Radishes]] contemplates starvation.</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 26|Text Update 26]]: [[Zhopa]] makes a ham sandwich, whilst [[Stanley]] makes a meal of it.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 36|Page 36]]: The [[Parson Gotti|pizza-stained]] [[warlord]] plans a food fight.</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 27|Text Update 27]]: [[Stanley]] regales [[Zhopa]] with, and answers the frequently asked questions about, the fall of [[Faq]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB 37|Page 37]]: [[Slately]] stands, then [[Tramennis]] stands up to him when he takes a stand on understanding an [[Charlie|outstanding communicator]] and an [[Ossomer|upstanding warlord]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 28|Text Update 28]]: [[Jillian]] pushes around the goo of her feelings, whilst [[Ansom]] is pushed around by the goo of a [[megalogwiff]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB 38|Page 38]]: Despite [[Jillian]] and [[Tramennis]]' best efforts, it is [[Parson]] who makes the call.</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 29|Text Update 29]]: Two [[Toolism|Toolists]] compare their encounters with a [[Arkenpliers|Tool]] of the [[Titans]] as well as with a [[Parson Gotti|Tool]] of [[Fate]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB 39|Page 39]]: [[Jillian]] is unimpressed with [[Charlie]]'s [[Luckamancy Charms|lucky charms]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 30|Text Update 30]]: With [[Cubbins]]' help, [[Ace Hardware]]'s [[inventory|stores]] becomes a helpful place.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 40|Page 40]]: [[Parson]] tells [[Maggie]] he takes his [[unit|game pieces]] seriously, and then goes to play dress-up; [[Tramennis]] gets a taste of the [[Charlie|rainbow]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 31|Text Update 31]]: [[Uhura]] gets [[nookie|dirty]] with a [[Sizemore Rockwell|dirtamancer]], and we learn that bad news comes in Fibbonacci sequences.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 41|Page 41]]: In a switch, [[Charlie]] tries to hire [[Tramennis]] with the promise of [[Eyemancy|dirt]] on a [[Parson Gotti|potato]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB 42|Page 42]]: [[Parson]] plans a [[Portal|trip]] after his shameless self-[[promotion]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 32|Text Update 32]]: [[Duncan Scone|Duncan]] enjoys an [[megalogwiff|unstoppable]] [[mount]]. But he enjoys stopping the [[Jillian|unstoppable]] [[warlord]] more.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 43|Page 43]]: The [[Jetstone|radishes]] consider a [[parley]] with a [[Parson Gotti|potato]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB 44|Page 44]]: [[Tramennis]] prepares for a [[parley|conference]]; [[Parson]] prepares for a [[combat]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 33|Text Update 33]]: A [[King Slately|short father]] takes a long walk with his [[Tramennis|last son]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB 45|Page 45]]: [[Parson]] orders [[Wanda]] to evacuate some [[Airspace|air]], and [[Sizemore]] to [[Tunnel|evacuate]] some [[Magic_Kingdom#Portal_Park|ground]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 34|Text Update 34]]: [[Benjamin]] is not averse to be an observant servant in [[Rhyme-o-mancy|verse]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB 46|Page 46]]: [[Parson]] pits [[Sizemore Rockwell|caster]] against [[Magic Kingdom|caster]] and [[Ossomer|brother]] against [[Tramennis|brother]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 35|Text Update 35]]: How is a [[Jack Snipe|foolamancer]] like a [[Wanda Firebaugh|croakamancer]]? They both choose to be first in war rather than third (or second) in love.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 47|Page 47]]: [[Spacerock]]'s [[Tramennis|prince]] poops on [[Ossomer]]'s new [[raiment|suit]] and [[dwagons]] poop on [[Spacerock]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 36|Text Update 36]]: [[Crap]] happens... to fall on [[Duke Adam Antium]] and his troops.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 48|Page 48]]: [[Tramennis]] mistakes tactics for tantrums.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 48a|Page 48a]]: [[Parson Gotti|Parson]]'s [[eyebook]] explores [[ration|harvest]] exploits.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 49|Page 49]]: [[Dwagons]] fall down.</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 37|Text Update 37]]: A [[Marie|predictamancer]] prophesies [[Parson Gotti|Parson]]'s pending [[Magic_Kingdom#Portal_Park|Portal Park]] presence.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 50|Page 50]]: [[Jack]] acts the [[foolamancy|fool]] and the [[healomancy|Cure]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 38|Text Update 38]]: [[Maggie]] hopes a [[Great Minds that Think Alike|great mind]] plucks her [[G-String]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB 51|Page 51]]: [[Jack]] and [[Wanda]] discuss the weather; [[Adam Antium|Adam]] drowns in it.</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 39|Text Update 39]]: [[Sylvia]] commands [[Fud]] and [[Captain Archer|Archer]]. How it turned out was this: Awesome.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 52|Page 52]]: A [[Tramennis|Prince]] plans to port his [[King Slately|pater]]; [[Parson]] plans to pass a [[portal]].</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 40|Text Update 40]]: [[Isaac]] discovers the gravity of the situation.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 53|Page 53]]: [[Tramennis|Jetstone's Prince]] reassesses his strategy; [[King Slately|Jetsone's King]] reassesses his princes.</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 41|Text Update 41]]: In the huddle, [[Ace Hardware]] tries to change the play on the field, but the others decide to pass.</li>
<li>[[LIAB 54|Page 54]]: [[Wanda]] wants to go around, [[Jack]] and [[Sylvia]] want to blow things up, and [[Caesar Borgata|Caesar]] wants better intel.</li>
<li>[[LIAB Text 42|Text Update 42]]: [[Slately]] rediscovers honor. "[[Slately|You]] come to me and you say, '[[Don King]], give me justice.' But you didn’t ask with respect; you didn’t offer friendship — you didn’t even call me 'godfather.'"</li>
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Talk:Tramennis

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Jorgath: /* It's what he'd like to actually be wearing, you see */

==Visual Reference==
He's supposed to look like Brad Pitt's Achilles from the movie Troy, right? I haven't seen it myself, so I don't wanna jump to any conclusions. -No one in particular

:I was going to say he looked a bit like Joachin Phoenix in "Gladiator", actually. Armor seems to be more Roman, and Brad Pitt wasn't much for clothes in "Troy". But then, Joachin Phoenix has dark hair (as does Russel Crowe in that movie, for that matter)... not sure. Other ideas? --[[User:MisterB777|MisterB777]] 19:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

:: Perhaps a young Cato the Elder? I only mention him because he once used figs to urge the Senate to war. Fresh figs though, not used. - No one in particular

::: I figured he was supposed to look like a fantasy version of Superman. --[[User:Wrecan|Wrecan]] 23:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
:::: Oops! I was thinking of Ossomer, not Tramennis. nvm. --[[User:Wrecan|Wrecan]] 23:28, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
::::: Hes James Dean, clear as the day is blue http://www.michaeldeas.com/Mike%20Deas%20Website/site_images/James_Dean_490.jpg --[[User:Darakat|Darakat]] 03:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

==Weapon==

Didn't he have a rapier? I will look later in the summer updates.
Summer Update 40:<br>
"Nonsense! I'm telling you, we should do it more. The enemy is." He stepped back and put his hand on his hip, beside the hilt of his '''''rapier'''''. "Anyway, Prince's privilege. I knew I'd want to talk to you after diplomatic rounds."
:Oh. I was just going by appearance.

==Typo==

Just noting that I edited a typo, in case the page gets reverted. (Exposition Bridge > Expository Bridge)

== He's so unassuming... yet... ==

I somehow get the feeling he's very dangerous in a close-quarters fight. He reminds me of Count Fenring from Dune, i don't know why... --[[User:Jerichothebard|Jerichothebard]] 22:30, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Anyone who faces a undead army lead by a demented visage of your former brother and cracks a tea joke is either unflappable or demented; or both.--[[User:Paper Golem|Paper Golem]] 00:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

:More than being dangerous in a fight, he's smart - he's able to see past the ruses of the enemy.

"''Do you ever get tired of being right?''" Uh-huh. That's what I thought. Goofy - on the surface. --[[User:Jerichothebard|Jerichothebard]] 17:39, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Given that he seems like the least formidable in combat of the princely brothers Jetstone (though, admittedly, we don't know that yet), I wonder if he isn't going to end up as a Parson parallel - someone with less impressive stats than one would hope for in a commander, but who is absolutely brilliant enough to utterly outstrip any rival when he's actually making the calls.

The most terrifying exchange between Tramennis yet witnessed is this one: "You should know better than to ask that, Prince Tramennis." "But I ''am'' asking." Positively Hamster-ian, that is. - Noip

==It's what he'd like to actually be wearing, you see==
Assuming that his transformation from armor to tie-dye in a meeting of minds is actually a personal reflection and not just Charlie messing with him, then maybe Tramennis is ALSO A HIPPIEMANCER. How awesome would it be to see a war where both Chief Warlords are brilliant hippiemancers? I say it would be totally awesome. -No one in particular
:The tie-dyed garb is not just any tie-dye; it is ''rainbow'' tie-dye, in keeping with the theme Charlie set up in the previous panels. Yes, hippies like rainbow tie-dyed clothes, but what other rainbow garb could Charlie have dressed him up in? The only thing that comes readily to mind is a clown costume, and that would have been a pretty insulting choice.--[[User:Museerouge|Museerouge]] 01:54, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

:So are we allowed to say that Tramennis is gay yet without starting an all-out flame-war (oh dear God, no pun intended but what alternative term is there)? I started to suggest it when I first posted my comment back in January, but decided not to shake things up until there was more proof; after all, Tramennis could have simply turned out to be effeminate but straight (like the Scarlet Pimpernel, perhaps). However, after [[LIAB Text 42]] it would seem rather absurd to suggest that Tramennis was straight but was denied the throne because he was a bit effeminate, which would be the alternative interpretation of King Slateley's line: '"So who cares if he's a— If his Signamancy is less...than manly." Slately cleared his throat. "I certainly don't. Any more. He ought to lead."' Good for you, King. See? Neither Slately nor Don King (who's paying for the promotion to Heir) have a problem with a gay king, so everything's cool and we can all be grown-ups about it too. I'll leave plenty of time for discussion and consensus before editing anything on Tramennis's main page, don't worry (even the ridiculous "''His delicate appearance'' prompted King Slately to send him to a far off war where he would be forgotten and likely croaked" line, which haunts me). Now, I've tried to be PC and consider other people's sensibilities to avoid offending anybody, so I ask that everybody do the same during discussion, please. Bigots need not chime in - we can do just fine without you, thank you very much.--[[User:Museerouge|Museerouge]] 01:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
::Well, as far as the wiki goes, I'd suggest just saying something like "it is heavily implied" at this point. Aside from some color and the (still unspecified) suspicions of his machismo-obsessed dad, there hasn't been any concrete evidence. And personally, I wouldn't put it past Slately to deny his son the throne just because of how he looks. He's clearly been using Stanley's Guide to Promoting Warlords (i.e. who's biggest and manliest?) before now. Seriously, this is literally what happened at Gobwin Knob: the invading army has gotten right up to the doorstep, there are no other choices for Chief Warlord, and the weird looking guy is actually much smarter than the short, philosophy-obsessed ruler expected.

::But yeah, getting back to the point: until I see Tramennis making out with Parson or something, I'd go with "heavily implied" -- [[User:No one in particular|No one in particular]] 05:05, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

:::In any case, I'd actually go with "heavily implied that Slately suspects that Tramennis is gay" and "no concrete evidence for or against." [[User:Jorgath|Jorgath]] 17:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

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