Talk:Dance-Fighting

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"Alternatively, dance-fighting may be a completely different combat mechanic, where non-dance-fighting units may automatically forfeit. Furthermore, losing a dance-fight might not croak units, but rather humiliate them and cause them to rout. If combat is stack-vs-stack, then the dance-fighting units in a stack represent the entire stack in the dance-fight, and can save non-dance-fighting units from humiliation. "


The Above is completely innaccurate - see Erf-b1-p128Same-site.PNG Removing from the article but leaving it pasted here so it is not lost.

That theory is apparently based on the concept of "getting served," which has not so far been substantiated by anything in the comic, but might yet happen in the future (at least, I hope so). -- Commander I. Heartly Noah June 7 2009 01:00

I see Dance-Fighting as a warlord specific challenge. Think of it like an officer duel. And unlike regular combat, in a dance fight units provide bonuses to the warlord rather than the other way around.

[edit] Dance Fight Types

Page 133 of Book 1 seems to indicate that there are different types of dance-fighting: Lord Hamster orders Wanda to set up a "Safety Dance", an obvious reference to the song by "Men Without Hats". Are there therefore offensive dance-fighting types and defensive ones?

I propose that this be put as speculation. --Darren 22:15, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Certainly there are different styles of dancefighting, at least - the KISS have some style, Transylvito & co. went 50s era, Grease-style dance-off, Wanda and her host of uncroaked broke out the choreographed zombo-line dance, and Ansom/Charlescomm offered the "dancing for idiots" DDR matrix to assist their untrained soldiers. Aside from the benefit of leading the uninitiated with the DDR thing, the effects of the differing styles are anyone's guess. -- Commander I. Heartly Noah June 7 2009 01:00

I think this is part of the 'challenged to a dance fight' thing. Think about it, I bet ballet would kick heiny, you know? Xewleer 01:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Natural Ability

Is it confirmed that dance-fight is a natural ability? I like to think of it as something units can learn. --Welf von Ehrwald 22:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How it works

I don't agree with the statement in the page on how dance fighting is a lead-up to combat but doesn't include any actual fighting while dancing. It's hard to say for sure with only still images to go on, and clearly there is a dance lead-up prior to actual contact with the enemy.

But I think we can surmise that there is actual dance-based combat, not only from the name (it's not 'performance bonus' or 'served! bonus) but because a) the hand-holding knife fight between Mario and Vurp is the kind of stylized thing you'd see in West Side Story or the Beat It! video, and b) if you look at the "Thriller" combat in the courtyard (pre-DDR), the RCC troops are all getting killed, while all the uncroaked are making their attacks identically, in unison, i.e. performing the Thriller dance together with weapons in hand. -- Commander I. Heartly Noah June 29 2009 14:14

Caesar axe kicks Stanley, very uncharacteristic of dance fighting. (Actually, Stanley is never shown actually dancing, which has always concerned me.) At best, we see a few uncroaked with Wanda in dance-like poses after a combat, but that may merely be them returning from combat to dance after victory. It is hard to tell from still frames, but there's no frame where a dance-fighter is clearly still dancing while fighting. At the very least, we can definiitely say that it is not necessary to dance while fighting, though some may choose to. I'm inclined to leave it as is, until more solid evidence presents. I don't doubt that it will, though it may take months. --Kreistor 15:32, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Do we know for sure that Stanley can dance-fight? I know that Jillian & Vinny were worried that dance fighting might occur, but maybe that was more of a KISS thing? At any rate, maybe they got credit for "rocking" even if they weren't dancing. And as far as an axe kick being "uncharacteristic" of dance fighting... based on what? The two choreographed lead-ups we do see, both based on dances that didn't include kicking? Or some outside source? Neither is really good enough to determine what is characteristic of dance fighting. Considering our presented examples are Thriller, West Side Story, and (presumably) 50s era sock-hop/Grease-style dance-off competition, I'd say there's a good deal of variety inherent in the process. And frankly, I'd suggest kicking would be far more useful in a dance fight than a real one.
Though none of that really speaks to whether dancing continues into combat. It could be that Caesar and Stanley broke off from the dance-fighting (once the others had cleared a path for him) and they were one-on one. (Maybe dance fighting is a group activity? Maybe the Arkenhammer can't activate its abilities while dancefighting?) Personally, I believe the panel where all the Uncroaked have their hands over their faces and the waves of RCC are flying about is good enough. But still, I'll admit I can't prove it, but I don't think there is any evidence that there is no combat while dancing/vice versa, and I would prefer at least a more neutral description. I'm not going to change it myself, though. Commander I. Heartly Noah June 29 2009
He dressed for it. Air guitaring may count. He does do that. --70.54.95.45 02:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, he had "war paint" on, but does that directly connect with dance-fighting? Guitar may count, I dunno. Commander I. Heartly Noah
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