Salem wrote:It is perfectly valid to argue against something being precdent.
It's also perfectly valid for the other side to claim that your points against the precedence are invalid.
Salem wrote:Here is my argument against precedence.
Uncroaked - Not sentient - Unlife - Decays - Magic - Made by Mortals
Decrypted - Sentient -2nd Life - Lives - Artifact - Made by Divinity
Wands is a MASTER croakamancer, she knows OODLES about her art, the decrypted STILL suprise her. Their existence was new information AND.
Uncroaked - Mindlessly Loyal - Mindless - Probably a "-" Loyalty stat
Decrypted - Question Orders - Retain memories and beliefs - Return to their father's ranks to die with honor as a son of Jetstone.
I find your terms to be lacking in sufficient definition or any real meaning.
You claim some difference by using the terms "unlife" and "2nd life." It's far more accurate to say that both died, and that both are now not dead. Both had Motion removed from them, and both had Motion restored to them. Your special terms have no real meaning.
You also claim another difference by using the labels "Made by Mortals" and "Made by Divinity." It's far more accurate to say that both are "made" by the acts of a Croakamancer. Unless you care to cite evidence that a Titan came down to Erf and created all those decrypted which we've seen Wanda create? Another pair of terms which don't have any real meaning.
You claim that decrypted "Question Orders" and "Return to their father's [side]", when those were very specific exceptions to the unwavering loyalty we're seen from the decrypted. You cannot use a single fringe case, an abnormality, and apply it to the entire class of decrypted. Allow me to cite a case of a decrypted being "Mindlessly Loyal" even against very strong personal objections:
Ansom, upon being told that he would be left behind while the flying forces moved to Jetstone: I'll alert the tool. He will order you to allow me to lead the assault!
Wanda: No. You will not.
Ansom: No. ...I will not.
And this example can be applied to all
decrypted except for your single, fringe case. You have in fact provided the exception which proves the rule.
Salem wrote:Wands is a MASTER croakamancer, she knows OODLES about her art, the decrypted STILL suprise her. Their existence was new information AND.
This is just a meaningless exclamation of yours in the context of this discussion. Wanda not knowing about decrypted has nothing to do with the similarity of decrypted to uncroaked.
I'll grant you decays vs. does not decay, and not sentient vs. sentient. But I won't give you "retains beliefs" as we have the very strong example of Ansom, who was a complete royalist and called Wanda "witch" and other negative names, upon decrypting adoring Wanda completely and instantly being a convert to toolism.
Oh, and here's another couple similarities I missed listing before:
Both dust upon being killed.
Both are considered to be abominations by royalist sides (examples: Bea, Slately)
They are far more alike than they are different.