shamelessmerc wrote:"Ironbear" I think the central barrier to freedom in Erfworld is not the absence of political philosophy, but an economic system that is predicated on war.
Maybe, though I think you can parse that
down to the more basic fact that the people don't have freedom as a desire. As beings, the idea of freedom to them by their very being, the way they are built
, doesn't mean what it means to us, and isn't one of their basic desires. Freedom
as an absolute to them, means something like death, because if they were "free" at the moment, and for all of their recorded history, they were side-less and that meant dead. It isn't just their economic system, but their thoughts, their actual being.
To give them something to replace what they have, you would have to construct that as a philosophy in each and every mind, as a desire, as a way of life that they understood and wanted
, or you are not giving them freedom at all, but are merely imposing your (our) preferred way of life on them autocratically, "because we know what is good for all of you". ( Lets just ignore for a moment that he would be imposing it as a dictator, as a King, if he was right to do it objectively, it might well be proper behaviour for
a King, after all )
And we don't know what is better for them. Parson, a person who in our democratic "R.L." world, has no life except playing games of escapism and is a very low member of society with no power nor understanding really of "democracy", certainly does not know what might be good for all of Erfworld, HE doesn't even know what is good for himself, as his friend told him in the first or second comic and he admitted. He is, in our democracy, of no account . . . not even capable of keeping himself healthy . . . what part of that grants him the right of setting up an economic and political and philosophical system for an entire world of a myriad of different beings?.
shamelessmerc wrote: There are non-Royal sides after all, but unlike in this world where Autocracy relies on systematic coercion and no more,
Woh woh woh, citation please.
shamelessmerc wrote:on Erfworld Warlords give a measurable boost to the troops under their command, they provide efficiency gains to resource production. Unlike in the real world, where these advantages are gained through skill and good management, in Erfworld these are intrinsic to the laws of nature. Any political restructuring Parson might wish to accomplish would have to demonstrate that the gains provided by doing things differently would offset the losses from abandoning "the old ways".
Yes, exactly, and Parson can't possibly either demonstrate that. He works a menial position at Kinkos, not at a political science think tank, or the IMF or something. I mean, even if he ran his own successful business, how does that qualify him for setting up and entire world ad hoc?. I suggest that even setting up a medium of exchange for Erfworld that worked flawlessly first time every time would be impossible for ANYONE alive on our earth, set down and given the task. Let alone a fantasy board game expert. So since he can't even hope to set up a medium of exchange between Vampires, Goblins and Superfluous Elves and the dozens or more other different kinds of beings, what makes anyone think he can also do all the other parts of making a world for them to live in.
Can't be done. The Magic Spell route needs you to understand what it is you want to have happen, and no one, no one in the world, could possibly hold in their mind the resulting complexity.
The only way to have a world without war, would be the old fashioned way, top down control and make warfare illegal. Or a simple spell one can understand.
"Go you, and make war no more" then let them worry about keeping it alive just as the rest of us do/have, making our own choices and incrementally "perfecting the Union".
And that would be moral, and the alternative of making an entire system and imposing it while not knowing for a second if it would work, any more than Marxists or Laisser-fairists know their systems work when they impose them, is immoral.
tl:dr No possible system that Parson imposes can work, he has not the necessary depth of learning to construct it so it DOES work, ( no single human existing has ever, or does have the depth of learning, OUR Economics and Politics are proof of that, THEY DON'T WORK ) and even trying it WITH a passably workable system, is immoral.