And Tremmenis is now king, and would know his father is truly gone.
You put up a good fight Slately, you put up a good fight.
And Parson is taking his predicament quite well.
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joosy wrote:bah. I'm still not buying the reasoning on why Slately had to risk himself and other units to switch the capitols.
If the point was to trap Parson in Jetstone all Charlie had to have Slately do is to wait until Parson was in Jetstone and then retreat all units out of the garrison thus giving control to GK and closing the portal. The whole 'switching capitols' plan appears to just be there to demonstrate to us how a mechanic is used in game so that Parson can manipulate it to his advantage in the future.
If Jetstone lost control of Spacerock while Spacerock was still their capital, then all units in the outer walls or airspace would have been captured, all of Jetstone's other cities would have turned neutral, all Jetstone units in the field other than Trammenis's stack would have disbanded, and Jetstone would no longer have a treasury - only the purses in Trammenis's stack.
I'm a bit rusty on rules, where do we learn just loosing a capital is enough for all that to happen?
If the ruler dies without an heir we know all their cities "freeze" and units in the field disband. If a heir is in the field when they loose their cities/ruler they go barbarian, and any units not in their stack disband and treasury is limited to their own purse. If a garrison is captured all units for that side in that city are captured... but I don't think just losing the capital is enough to wipe armies in the field and turn all their cities neutral.
Ever since dwagon fall Jetstone had been playing as if there was a very good chance Spacerock, the capital, was going to be lost. Trem was planning on evacuating Slately and then either attacking the GK forces or
retreating with all the Jetstone forces in Spacerock. But Trem wasn't heir and there was no talk of changing the capital before hand - if just loosing a capital turns all cities for that side "neutral" and disbands non-heirs/rulers then Trem and the entire army with him would have been doomed the moment they left and GK claimed the garrison, and he certainly wasn't acting like he was making a choice between losing an army to Wanda or losing an army to disbanding. Changing capitals only popped up fairly late in the game at Charlie's instigation.
Plus (might be wrong here) Faq lost its capital, but don't they still have more units then could possibly have been in King Banhammer's stack alone? (Jillian was safe as heir)
name lips wrote:At this moment, Trem has become Overlord.
I wonder if he will be willing to negotiate with Parson.
By "Control-z", Parson could mean that he wants to undo the taking of the Spacerock garrison by letting Jetstone recapture it. Parson, Antium, and the surviving GK units would become prisoners, and get move.
I see two ways for Parson to let Jetstone take the city. One is more awesome than the other.
1. Call Tremennis and negotiate. Parson moves all the GK troops out of the garrison. Trem sends in a token force to take the garrison before it completely turns to ash. Trem then escorts his new prisoners out of the hex.
Only problem with that is calling Trem that I can see. Parson, by rights, shouldn't even know that Jetstone didn't just cease to be with Slately's death yet. Maggie is stuck in the MK low on juice, Parson doesn't have a communication hat and Charlie is out. Unless Trem comes back for some reason it seems unlikely Parson could talk to him in time to save himself from the inferno.
Which is much the same reason I'm doubtful Stanley changing capitals is going to be the problem solver. Stanley should know they have gained Spacerock, but his communication network is in disarray so he shouldn't know he needs to do anything at the moment. Maggie is in the MK low on juice, Parson is in a burning Spacerock. For Slately to change capitals there he needs to be told that he has to, convinced if he is against the idea, and then actually do it (thus making the capital, for a turn at least, practically undefended - even if Wanda decrypts, because there isn't a lot to decrypt). Sizemore has to travel there... all that takes time, even with the weird time compression that goes on for different sides/zones.
The last we see of GK's archons is here:http://www.erfworld.com/page/56/
And some are shown to have survived the onslaught. We see Clonely abandon the aerial battle immediately after this page, because he achieved his monetary goal. He left Airspace and ceased looking for Archons, so all of the Foolamancy protected Archons are still, presumably, alive. Not a lot will have survived, but we have no indication of 100% losses. And now that they have freedom of movement in the city, they can move to sections that aren't yet burning to buy time until the inferno can be quenched..
Well, we see six in the first panel. One is dusted in the first panel, another dusted in panel six. No indication of how many of them hid or where killed between those two panels. We know by the last panel exactly one archon is still alive and hiding for certain with potentially three others still out there (unless other Archons had already fled the battle and hid off screen).
I always read that as pretty definite that Slately and co had finished off the Archons. We have him saying saying the remainder are veiled (as we know, we got an update about one hiding). He is says he can spot them (which he seems to attribute to Ace's accessories), and that the others are to follow him because "I shall identify them" - which suggests he's spotted more than one. It looks pretty clear they are heading to attack one of them (text update archon), despite at that point having achieved his monetary goal.
Plus Sylvia states "yeah, I think they're all dusted, except the one they netted".
There is no certain indication of 100% losses, maybe there were one or two really good at hiding. But there is absolutely no indication Slately gave up the fight knowing there were still veiled archons before he was satisfied they had got them all, just because he'd achieved his monetary goal, because we can plainly see he is still going after them even when he has his prize and the last GK archons have fled and hid. Which, knowing he didn't leave the airspace without going after at least some of the veiled archons, really doesn't give much reason to think many (or any) survived, especially when Sylvia continues to watch him fight well after the netting has occurred and can conclude "I think they're all dusted".
And so my time with the Tardy Elves draws to a close, and I am let to ponder how the experience will... eh, I'll finish later. No need to rush.