Vorteks wrote:Well, we know that FAQ falls to Gobwin Knob, not Haffaton. And Wanda is with them at the time, implying capture. So my first guess is that FAQ captures Haffaton, razes it, and then returns to their previous location. It seems unlikely to me that FAQ could successfully lead a military strike on Haffaton, capture Wanda, and then NOT defeat Haffaton without Haffaton destroying them later in retaliation.
Then again, Rob's certain thrown us some delightful surprises so far.
We know how things will be at the start of Book One. But how that situation is reached... well all we've really got to go on is a few stories and some guess work. Here's the question though, what, exactly, is Wanda supposed to transition to? It's can't be Faq I would think, as that's the 'everything' Gillian, Jill, or whatever her name is risks by fighting. Gobwin Knob doesn't exist at this point. Mebbe Gill hasn't done her job yet by the time of the Siege of Spacerock? She did get Ansom croaked by turning on Wanda after all.
ftl wrote:Man, predictamancers are arrogant.
Really, Delphie? Why would she think for even one second that whoever found the note would believe it and would follow the instructions?
I completely don't blame Jillian for ignoring it entirely. For all she knows it could be another Haffaton trap.
Delphie is extremely arrogant, or was rather, but she's far outstriped by Gillian. Note, her own Side has a Predictamancer she could try double checking this with. Instead she's trying to conquer a Side that may be completely immune to attack thanks to their Florist.
As far as traps go, the greater danger I'd say is that Haffaton discovered the note when they captured the City. And that would mean? That they let G. Zamussles get away with everything she's accomplished since her escape simply because they knew she was Fated to take this City. Prediction fulfilled? Off come the gloves.
Delphie's almost as aggravating, blaming Wanda for the results of her lies, if only she'd been straight with people... And if only Fate would try hooking Wanda up with a girl who isn't a complete monster.
Even from the grave, Delphie is terrible predictomancer, able to see the future with great clarity, but completely uncapable of comprehending how people will react to her predictions. Who could possibly be so weak-willed as to accept the idea that one's only reason for existing is to fulfill some stupid prophecy?
Someone who's been told as much by her Side's Predictamancer? Gilly was created because of Marie's reaction to seeing Wanda for the first time and she knows it. She's worse at being a Chief Warlord than Delphie was at helping her Side.
No one in particular wrote:Huh? Jillian was thinking of attacking Haffaton way back before WRECD was even formed. (“Let’s take this whole show on the road,” she said. “As Chief Warlord, I say we go to war with Haffaton, and win.”–IPTSF 33) The note has nothing to do with it.
And if anything, her following through on an idea she's had for months, that she's been in favor of the whole time and has argued for... kind of is the opposite of capricious. I mean, aside from being kind of indecisive when it comes to love, Jillian is quite consistent (Attack attack attack!!!).
Tiny? Maybe, but it would be 3 cities worth of soldiers, a crap-ton of gwiffons, and EIGHT casters. Against the "woefully underdefended capital" (IPTSF 44)
Slow? Why would they be slow? Everyone would be on gwiffons and megalogwiffs. They'd have practically no move-penalty compared to Haffaton's ground forces. They'd be blazing with move!
Visible? Wait, WHAT? Visible? With the Lookamancy/Predictamancy/Foolamancy combo they've been practicing since Orwell/Marie/Jack were popped? They wouldn't be seen, period.
Vulnerable? Maybe... but Haffaton is just as vulnerable. When Jillian made her escape, she found out "... that this city was woefully undefended, for instance. The whole area around it was practically empty". Each time we've seen a Haffaton city, it's been practically deserted, and Jillian's been able to overpower it if she has ANY help at all.
Idiotic and capricous is a fair comment. Oh sure, the Gillster may be sticking like a glue to the stupid plan she invented on a whim after getting the lunatic idea that Croakamancy is a defensive weapon, but she decided to try ordering this attack because she was handed a doom-laden Prediction that was actually more hopeful than the doom-laden Predicition she'd been given already. Small wonder Marie thinks Faq is booped.
Tiny equals a few dozen heavy fliers at most, almost certainly smaller than the force the Gillster will take to Spacerock. Slow means a trip that will take twenty odd turns, at a minimum. Visible, well any Warlord or scout they fly over will have dozens of chances to pierce the veil, if not hundreds. Vulnerable, she means to leave their Cities empty (allowing for easy decapitation) and any interception force will only have to shoot the King and the Princess. Plus, well Haffaton has magic too, a handful of visible
Units in the Capital may well be enough if the Spells on the Tower are sufficiently nasty, nevermind a certain Florist.
One last thing, your point about Haffaton's Cities... we've seen three since Goodminton fell. The first was a trap, the last was fated to fall, the Capital could easily
be one of those occasions where the guards have to ignore a bunch of idiots stumbling past them saying 'shush' in order for the plan to work. Come into my parlour and all that, as at Kiloton.
effataigus wrote:As a card carrying member of the "Charlie behind every bush" club, I approve of this speculation. Flying units appearing as if from nowhere in a capital strike sounds like his MO to me. I'm just curious, if he was there, whether he was getting paid to be.
What would he gain from such an attack? When has he ever done so? Did he even exist back then?
Now Faq? Their whole thing is secretive airstrikes and they have a motive, the same motive behind Gillian's unprovoked attacks on Haffaton. The Lady Wanda Firebaugh, the girl destined to end them, was of Goodminton. If you're planning to fight Fate, destroying Goodminton woulld be the obvious way to do so.