Tommy dead? So this is how it ends. Unexpectedly, not in a last and epic standoff and failure against Fate and multiple enemies, with Wanda having to run to the magic kingdom as her family is torn apart by enemies, like i was hoping for.
One thing of note about the hippymancers: With their stalling abilities, they are as deadly/far more deadly than some other caster classes. While they prevent the main enemy forces from fighting in the name of "peace", other enemy regiments can go wild on other cities, which is exactly what's happenning. Peace my arse.
I actually expected this to happen
. It seemed likely that Atomic would blow it at Kiloton and meet his end. I didn't expect such a long fuse, though. All that remains is for Wanda to be named heir and my speculation will be complete.
Most of Olive's effectiveness here comes from Tommy's poor decisions. Goodminton could have attacked Plankton and avoided the trap. Goodminton could have turned around the moment they reached Kiloton. Tommy is the one who decided to waste a turn at Kiloton and planned on wasting another. Olive could only affect one hex. Also, Haffaton, Quisling and Frenemy obviously had forces deployed elsewhere, ready to move. While I'm not saying Hippiemancers aren't powerful, I don't see them being more dangerous than other casters.
Keldaria wrote:Hmmm, I'm thinking... Maybe goodmitton didn't have an heir delegated even tho the king effectively had a son and a daughter (kind of like how the recent prince needed to be delegated heir for jetstone even tho he was a prince). Soo my thought is that the capital fell or was being captured and the king in a last effort to save at least one of his offspring signed the ready made deal to trade wanda to the other side and spare her the fate of tommy and the rest of his kingdom. Thus fulfilling the predictamancy and ensuring the destruction of wanda's side as predicted.
Even if the capital should fall and they should all disband in the field, she felt glad not to have stayed with Olive.
I think this proves that Tommy was not Heir-Designate. If he had been, Wanda would not have feared disbanding in the field as long as he was alive. Also, if the death had been caused by Overlord Firebaugh's death, they would have all simultaneously vanished, like at Unaroyal. Wanda wouldn't have had time to see Tommy croak and fall from his mount.
vintermann wrote:When exactly do warlords outside cities become barbarian upon the fall of their capital? We know the Wack from Faq became barbarian as a result of it, but apparently Queen Bea's just disbanded when the same thing happened.
Either way, I don't think they just keel over like that. I always imagined disbanding to be depopping, vanishing into thin air-like, not croaking.
Jillian was Banhammer's heir. When he croaked, she and her units remained. The same thing happened when Saline IV croaked. Stanely became Overlord, and Gobwin Knob's units didn't disband. In the case of Unaroyal, Cruz was croaked, so Bea had no heir.
MonteCristo wrote:If i had to guess i would say that this could be all what Haffaton was planning with this whole peace deal. If an alliance is not broken through inaction, then haffaton may have been planning this all the entire time. Through the deal with would get wanda; capture can risk croaking her in combat, or it could mean one of the other sides gets to her first. They would be bound to an alliance, but in truth haffaton no longer needs to do anything to finish off good mitten. They can allow goodmitten's former enemies to wipe out the side for them... Haffaton gets wanda AND gets to end goodmitten, but don't have to face the penalties of breaking alliance because someone else wiped out goodmitten.
I think Haffaton's original offer was genuine. Delphie was convinced that Overlord Firebaugh's rejection of the original peace preposal is what doomed her side. Haffaton seems like the local power. They have at least 9 cities, and they have formidible production capabilities. Frenemy and Quisling are collaborating with Haffaton. They allowed Haffaton units to pass through their territory to seize Goodfinger, since Tommy said they failed to guard Goodminton's flanks. They were feeding Haffaton intelligence that was used to plan ambushes. Olive was well aware of their move against Goodminton's capital. If Goodminton had accepted the original offer, they would have had 5 cities and been allied the to local power. It is also likely that Quisling and Frenemy will also ally with Haffaton. Goodminton would have been a reasonably stong side in a 4-side coalition fighting 2 sides in the battlespace. That probably would have lead to their survival. Instead, they are a side of 2 cities fighting 5 enemies by themselves. Personally, I think Haffaton changed their minds about the peace proposal when Tommy let slip the details of the Prediction.
MonteCristo wrote:I doubt Uncroaked Tommy will last too long... it appears we are winding down to the end of her side. More than likely this would mean her entering combat, most of her comrades croaking and her fellows dusting and then her being captured; whatever is left disbands when the overlord falls... So at most, Wanda will use her juice to restore Tommy to near full strength so that he can get one last spectacular fight with Wanda trying to take out as many haffaton units as possible.
I disagree. I think UnTommy will last until he decays into dust. This whole story is about Wanda. We have to consider what will have the greatest impact on her. Watching her beloved brother decay, turn after turn, until he dusts is much more tragic than watching him dust in combat. She'll get to see her brother turn into something unrecognizable and ugly, and she will be powerless to prevent it. That's my guess anyway.
"Sh," he said, holding up the fingers of his empty hand. He put his cards on the table, face down. "Check the hat. Did the hat rumble?"
It's nice to see Natural Thinkamancy at work. Tommy immediately knew that his father had sent a message and should check the hat.
Olive nodded, her face blank. "Trouble? It's not with us. Maybe it's your allies?"
It seems obvious that Olive knew exactly what had happened. It seems likely that Haffaton actually ordered it.
She touched her brother's arm and looked up at him. "I'll go. If it will save us."
While I think Haffaton's offer was genuine originally, based on Olive's lyrics, by this point, I doubt they would have honored it. They had already moved forces to ambush Goodminton's column, and Frenemy and Quisling were already over their capital. If they had traded Wanda to Haffaton, the ambush on the road wouldn't have happened, but Quisling and Frenemy would still have taken the capital. I doubt the reason they waited to attack had to do with Overlord Firebaugh's cleverness. If they had croaked Firebaugh while Wanda was in the field, she would have disbanded. Haffaton may have told them not to attack until she was either captured or safely in a city. For whatever reason, Haffaton still wants Wanda keenly.
When they finally drew apart, Tommy looked distant and distracted.
I have a feeling Tommy knew he was poisoned the moment it happened. He probably didn't say anything, because he knew his forces were needed in the capital and some may have wanted to attempt revenge if they knew. If he didn't know he was poisoned, he certainly knew Olive had done something to him.