Jinren wrote:Don't Barbarians have that one [being free] down fairly well already? Note that they also have bizarre and incomprehensible features like all taking their turn at once and having to physically interact with the world to farm, mine or hunt.
Not so incomprehensible. Units who belong to the various sides can also farm, mine, or hunt, to lower their upkeep. For examples, see Jillian "laying in provisions" by killing a fish called Wanda, and the TV crew hunting sheep. The same behavior in barbarians isn't incomprehensible, it's necessary for their survival, since unless they have a sponsor they have to provide their own upkeep somehow.
Taking their turn all at the same time, now that is odd for Erfworlers (refer to Stanlie's Princess Bride-like "Inconcievable!" response to Parson telling him about Stupidworld conducting war in real time). But if one assumes that barbarian units are fairly rare and thus seldom interact, this isn't terribly odd either by reason of being very rarely witnessed.
Smoker wrote:As for Greed, it seems to me that [Wanda] will waste anything and everything to complete her Predictamancy, which just so happens to be awesome. Now she claims she is loyal to fate, but that doesn't mean she's telling the truth. If her Prediction was "You will croak at the hands of a level one Marbit." Do you think she'd be arranging for that to happen, like she tried to with Stanley? I dont think so. In fact, I think she's using the whole fate thing as a very convenient way to be in control. Its very backwards, I know, but it seems to me that Wanda's real goal is attaining power and control, and her justification is fate.
Anyway, hopefully you can see where I'm getting at on that one. *shrug*
I thought that both Wanda and Stanley wanted to bring all of the arkentools together? And that their driving reason was that they thought that this is what the Titans wanted them to do? I don't think I've seen the goal of "rule over all of Erfworld" mixed in or mixed up with that goal, aside from being a natural consequence of their current territorial expansion. An expansion which was forced upon them by the aggressions of the RCC and RCCII.
I thought that Stanley picked this goal up from Wanda, but I could have that backwards. Wanda, at the very least, supported and enabled Stanley in his quest to collect all of the arkentools. Oddly, Wanda says that Charlie is the last person they would war against, as he is an attuned 'tool owner. Which makes collecting them all somewhat of a contradictory goal to that philosophical position with regards to warring on Charlie.