161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

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161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby gameboy1234 » Sun May 17, 2009 11:34 am

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161 The battle for Gobwin Knob, page 148

Postby doran » Sun May 17, 2009 11:34 am

Hmm, interesting, so Parson has a part of himself wanting to win at all costs.
I wonder if his change in outlook is going to continue over the summer gap?
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Re: 161 The battle for Gobwin Knob, page 148

Postby Jolly » Sun May 17, 2009 11:41 am

I liked seeing Sizemore workin' in the background.

Looks like his mining work has taken his mind of the murders he had to do.

And looks like diamonds (and gems) are a dirtamancers best friend as well as a womans!
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Re: 161 The battle for Gobwin Knob, page 148

Postby SteveMB » Sun May 17, 2009 11:49 am

Well, that is going to give Parson something to think about, uncomfortably.
Is this a real holy war, or just a bunch of deluded boopholes croaking each other?
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Re: 161 The battle for Gobwin Knob, page 148

Postby teratorn » Sun May 17, 2009 11:49 am

Jolly wrote:I liked seeing Sizemore workin' in the background.

I was going to say the same thing. Nothing like a task you love doing to take your mind
from what you have just done. Parson on the other hand it's drawn exactly to the kind of mayhem he
has just done. No wonder Wanda seems to look at him like a friend of sorts.
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Re: 161 The battle for Gobwin Knob, page 148

Postby raphfrk » Sun May 17, 2009 12:36 pm

doran wrote:Hmm, interesting, so Parson has a part of himself wanting to win at all costs.
I wonder if his change in outlook is going to continue over the summer gap?


Apparently, there was an experiment where the US military tested gamers in fake battle. They were shocked at the losses that they were willing to take in order to win. I think it is that total ruthlessness (when he is in gamer-mode) that the sword enhances.

Also, I wonder if this rule also applied to natural thinkamancy. Most people are naturally loyal to their country, and maybe loyalty in Erf just enhances that feeling.

Presumably, The other monsters Parson is thinking of are are Parson and Wanda.
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Re: 161 The battle for Gobwin Knob, page 148

Postby Whispri » Sun May 17, 2009 12:41 pm

So is it Ansom (destroyed at least ten cities) or Wanda (three own goals City wise, again minimum) that he's not counting?
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Re: 161 The battle for Gobwin Knob, page 148

Postby raphfrk » Sun May 17, 2009 1:01 pm

Whispri wrote:So is it Ansom (destroyed at least ten cities) or Wanda (three own goals City wise, again minimum) that he's not counting?


Well, we don't know what Ansom did to the cities he captured. All units in defeated city might not be killed.
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Re: 161 The battle for Gobwin Knob, page 148

Postby The Old Hack » Sun May 17, 2009 1:05 pm

I think he counts himself and Wanda. Given that to Parson Ansom is merely a defeated and converted opponent, he doesn't really figure into it, I suspect.
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Re: 161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby BarGamer » Sun May 17, 2009 2:25 pm

Spotted the "Flowers for Algernon" reference in panel 11!

I really liked this page, for some odd and ruthless reason. Granted, to a Thinkamancer, the things they do are small and subtle, but to everyone else, they make Links, Suggestions, Mind Control, send messages across vast distances... and turn Parsons into Perfect Warlords.
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Re: 161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby Vordrax » Sun May 17, 2009 2:47 pm

I liked reading what Parson considered doing to Maggie. It was both smart and compassionate of him NOT to do it, but I liked that he thought about it and that he let Maggie know he thought about it. He's letting his minions know what sort of things aren't acceptable under his command (at least, when Stanley's not around).
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Re: 161 The battle for Gobwin Knob, page 148

Postby Lothmar » Sun May 17, 2009 3:07 pm

raphfrk wrote:
Whispri wrote:So is it Ansom (destroyed at least ten cities) or Wanda (three own goals City wise, again minimum) that he's not counting?


Well, we don't know what Ansom did to the cities he captured. All units in defeated city might not be killed.


True, however in a game sense. If you cant convert a unit, why let it become a barbarian to threaten you or your allies later when you can grind em for experience?
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Re: 161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby Welf von Ehrwald » Sun May 17, 2009 3:18 pm

I always wondered what Parson original command was before he ordered them to the magic kingdom. And now we know.
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Re: 161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby Kaskah » Sun May 17, 2009 3:23 pm

I suppose Ansom could be considered a monster in a sense. After all, he is now more than willing to conquer Erf, and was more than happy to wipe Gobwin Knob off the face of Erf when he was 'alive'.
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Re: 161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby Infidel » Sun May 17, 2009 3:42 pm

Some of you guys are totally missing the point with the Monster business.
The monsters are the ones that killed those on their own friends/allies.
Parson, Wanda, Maggie.
Parson's current level of remorse might be making him confused whether he is one or two, but he is definitely considering himself a greater monster than Maggie right now with the comment about, "It's a joke to apologize to me." The volcano gambit slaughtered many on his own side. Wanda's betrayal of FAQ resulted in the death of her faction and of course many people. Maggie only killed one person.

What confuses me a little is Maggie's Thank you in the final frame and the comment she made. What aspect was she referring to I wonder? Parson's mercy? Is mercy such a remarkable trait in a warrior, or was she referring to something else.

Summer break? Are we going to go months without an erf update? Woe, agony, pain, dispair.

ohh, and it looks like the argument I made a while back about the bogroll veil working just as well on a gobwin was specifically debunked. Ahh well, can't be right all the time, or even most of the time :P
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Re: 161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby raphfrk » Sun May 17, 2009 4:23 pm

Vordrax wrote:I liked reading what Parson considered doing to Maggie. It was both smart and compassionate of him NOT to do it, but I liked that he thought about it and that he let Maggie know he thought about it. He's letting his minions know what sort of things aren't acceptable under his command (at least, when Stanley's not around).


Btw, I wonder why he didn't, it could be that he wasn't allowed, rather than that he considered it immoral. He would effectively be ordering a unit to self-destruct. The only reason to tactically justify such an action is if he felt that since one of them had to die, Sizemore and Wanda were more valuable to Stanley.

As to the summer break, the info is here.
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Re: 161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby teratorn » Sun May 17, 2009 4:49 pm

raphrk wrote:Btw, I wonder why he didn't, it could be that he wasn't allowed, rather than that he considered it immoral.


He thought he was going to die, he probably thought better than having petty revenge as his last action.

By the way, he just found a nice way to break any links he makes in the future. Just send whatever trio into the
Magic Kingdom with enough money to pay for the number of thinkamancers needed.
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Re: 161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby kreszantas » Sun May 17, 2009 4:49 pm

raphfrk wrote:
Vordrax wrote:I liked reading what Parson considered doing to Maggie. It was both smart and compassionate of him NOT to do it, but I liked that he thought about it and that he let Maggie know he thought about it. He's letting his minions know what sort of things aren't acceptable under his command (at least, when Stanley's not around).


Btw, I wonder why he didn't, it could be that he wasn't allowed, rather than that he considered it immoral. He would effectively be ordering a unit to self-destruct. The only reason to tactically justify such an action is if he felt that since one of them had to die, Sizemore and Wanda were more valuable to Stanley.

As to the summer break, the info is here.


Not so sure about self-destruct, but maybe severely incapacitated much in the way Wanda was from her backlash. (unit out of service for x amount of turns) Ruthlessness was pretty much what I thought it was, the enchancement of his gamer mentality. I am not so sure about Maggie not being just as important, it seems most sides have a thinkamancer they can issue orders to troops where warlord can not, linking of the casters, may more unseen functions like the sending thinkagrams, getting Jacks name through the glass was all her work. Maggie is not a 'battle' unit persay as compared to what Sizemore and Wanda were doing near the end.
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Re: 161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby raphfrk » Sun May 17, 2009 5:25 pm

kreszantas wrote:I am not so sure about Maggie not being just as important, it seems most sides have a thinkamancer they can issue orders to troops where warlord can not, linking of the casters, may more unseen functions like the sending thinkagrams, getting Jacks name through the glass was all her work. Maggie is not a 'battle' unit persay as compared to what Sizemore and Wanda were doing near the end.


The point was not that she is less valuable, just that if you are going to order 1 unit to sacrifice themselves to save another 2, then the one doing the sacrificing would have to be less valuable. Ofc, if they are all equally valuable, then it is all a wash.
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Re: 161 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 148

Postby Morthe » Sun May 17, 2009 5:54 pm

I wonder how many loose ends they have to talk about before his Toolness arrives. I'm really looking forward for Stanley's reaction...
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