MonteCristo wrote:how about a new question to add to the question you have not bothered to answer...
Why would wanda and Jack try it?
I can't say that, and so all I could do to satisfy you is to speculate. And that wouldn't get us anywhere. This is, by the way, the reason I don't address your every point even though you ask me to. You either want me to speculate about things I can not know, or, as in this case:
MonteCristo wrote:30*11=330... but anyway
You bring up over and over some niggling little objection which has been addressed more than once by the simple explanation that Vinny was estimating the number of enemy units, and rounding 330 down to 300 is well within character for a 50s greaser/gangster. But that won't stop you from tossing it out multiple times as if you've found some kind of inherent flaw in my reasoning, and so this is why I have avoided addressing a great many of your points: As I see them, they do not bear addressing. They are irrelevant. They do not concern me. Ask the authors why they showed what would appear to be a low odds chance succeed, I can not speak authoritatively to this question. But I'll repeat myself: If you look for only high odds results as being realistic, you're going to be greatly disappointed with a great deal of fiction. The next time you see Bruce Willis take down a helicopter with a car and a makeshift ramp, remember this discussion, please. Citing "plot trumps odds" does not suddenly change the rules. As long as the slightest chance exists, the main characters in most fiction can be expected to succeed, especially while under the greatest of duress or at the most inopportune time for the other characters. This has happened many times previously within this story, do not be surprised nor dismayed when it happens again.
MonteCristo wrote:And what i am saying is that vinnie's number had no real meaning to it... it was not an actual calculation but just a way of saying "the chances are really low"... kinda like saying the chances are "million to 1"; no one did the math to get that number, they just chose a high number... and no, not everyone uses numbers like "million" or a "thousand" when making such statements... it is a logical and valid argument
It is not a logical and valid argument to watch Vinny take X, multiply by an estimated Y, come up with the nearest round number which represents X * Y, and then hand wave it all away with a claim that "it was not an actual calculation." I mean, really...
Oberon wrote:Why don't you argue with the authors? This is how they chose to have Vinny state their chances. I just read it and accepted it at face value. Why can't you?
Because you are the one who THINKS he knows what they know.
Quite the opposite. I'm the one who accepted what the authors told us within the story
, and didn't make up a hugely convoluted chain of supposition and guesswork to try to guess what they really meant
, since accepting what they told us
is apparently somehow objectionable to you.
Occam's razor doesn't really apply here, but just for fun let's compare how much more work you had to do to come to your conclusion than I: All I had to do was see Vinny multiply 11 * 30 and state that it was "about 300", and then accept that he meant what he said. You had to, I don't know. I really don't know, but it wasn't as easy as what I did by a long shot.