Torturing Jetstone Line of Succession for Fun and Profit!

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Torturing Jetstone Line of Succession for Fun and Profit!

Postby ShaneTheBrain » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:52 am

So, Ossomer is Down and King Slately could easily be next. I've been trying to think through how Lord Hamster would parse through the politics. It's possible to really tangle up Erfworld's rules with more sploitz!

Want to see Jetstone's Line of Succession be tortured? I do!

1- King Slately of Jetstone gets his jetpack removed by the Archons. Lets say they take out a few more in the process, enough to designate an heir.
2- As the King falls, he designates the incapped Prince Trammeninis as his heir.
3- Lets say someone heals Trammenis. Doesn't matter who. Maybe some Jetstone unit finds a Healomancy scroll. Maybe Parson goes through the portal. Maybe Wanda goes BACK, which is bending the rules but given she was just there a few minutes ago she's not Assaulting a portal, she's more like Returning through it. Suffice to say someone heals Trammenis.
4- Let's further say Trammenis parleys with Parson and some kind of truce is declared. If Wanda couldn't go through before into enemy territory, she can when it's Truce territory.
5- Wanda Decrypts King Jetstone.
6- Trammenis can now designate his own father his Heir! Usually people are too Croaked or Uncroaked or Alive but Abdicated for that ever to happen, but I feel positive a Decrypted family member is alive enough to be designated Heir. Booping rule-breaking Arkentools! Ordinarily you shouldn't be able to designate another Faction's unit as your Heir, but he's already an approved member of the Jetstone Bloodline, so I think that check would automatically pass! If(MemberOfJetstoneRoyalFamily=TRUE) then AllowHeirDesignation; KingSlately.MemberOfJetstoneRoyalFamily=TRUE, therefore AllowHeirDesignation(King.Slately).
7- "King" Slately thus re-designated, Trammenis Abdicates. The Titans are giving you a second chance, King Slately! How's THAT feel?
8- Control of Jetstone is thus transferred to King Slately. But Slately is Decrypted and thus bound to Wanda, who is a subordinate Gobwin Knob unit! The entire Jetstone side aligns its Loyalty to its King, who is a Decrypted Gobwin Gnob unit subordinate to its Overlord. Gowbin Gnob now has a non-Royal Overlord who has a Chief Croakamancer with a Decrtypted King with an entire side intact under him! It's like a sub-committee.
9- Not being killed by Wanda, and being of less stern character anyway, King Slately finds he doesn't have it in him to turn back to Jetstone as Ossomer did. And anyway, Jetstone remains an entirely new entity, a Kingdom-Within-A-Side, so even if he "returns" to it nothing happens.

All Hail the Titans' new blueprint for Erfworld, where Royals are allowed to maintain their Royalty yet still serve the Tools of the Titans!
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Re: Torturing Jetstone Line of Succession for Fun and Profit

Postby ShaneTheBrain » Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:25 am

Why people might go for this:

Parson- Assuming the Archons fight hard enough to win up there, and it looks like they are winning, Jetstone's fate is up to Parson. He could call the Archons off and let the Jetstone Healomancer through to Trammenis. Whoever's left in charge of Jetstone has nothing to lose by allowing Trammenis healed, it's do or die since he croaks next turn anyway. For Parson, it's either show mercy or behead the entire Jetstone side, being responsible for thousands of disbanded units. Parson wouldn't want to destroy the side if he can help it, he still feels bad for all the lives he's taken so far, and it's wasteful. He may not know that much about Trammenis, but if he asks around he seems like a reasonable enough Diplomat. Nothing to lose. If Trammenis tries something they still have a lot of ground and air units. Probably.

Trammenis- His situation is assumed to still be precarious. Archons above, Silvia's forces in the keep, his odds of escaping aren't good. Diplomacy is his strong suit anyway. He may not like Decryption, but it would allow his father to live again and even be King again. It would also prevent the disbandment of thousands of his citizens. Parleying with Lord Hamster instead of attempting a near-suicidal escape means he gets to have that conversation with Parson he wanted anyway. Lord Hamster has proven himself to be just as tactical as Charlie said... and thus just as useful against Charlie as estimated.

Stanley the Tool- How often do you get to have a King bow down as _one of the Units you control as Overlord_?? Even Stanley couldn't resist that, a King being subordinate to a Tool. At first, missing a chance to raze an entire side's city seems infuriating, true. But Gobwin Knob is already pointlessly rich from all its gems, it doesn't need more cash. Especially since Charlie has quietly cut off the Gobwins as natural allies, the schmucker dump for cash. What Gowbin Gnob needs now is a more allies and a way to beat its City Cap diminishing returns. Having a Pocket Kingdom that is technically its own side accomplishes that. Instantly double your production without doubling your diminishing returns. Gobwin Knob's schmuckers reserve is just what the cash-strapped Jetstone needs to keep rolling out all its otherwise good production line-cloth siege, heavies and infantry units, it's really a good hybridization. Charlie would go nuts.

Wanda- Controlling Jetstone means she further cements Ansom's loyalties back to her... and away from Jillian. Ansom has twice the reasons never to turn when his two loyalties merge- Jetstone his home country, and Wanda as his pathway to the Titan's will for Erfworld. And, Wanda can use her Attuned Influence to order King Slately against designating another heir and splintering. Although she could also order him to splinter off and be Loyal to her still too. That's a mighty useful puppet to have.

King Slately- He gets to feel like he finally owned up to the Duty he was shirking as a King. For too long he held court and risked everyone but himself. The same day he was willing to give his life for Jetstone, is the same day the Titans and their Tools allowed him, and his entire Side, live again. He proved he was willing to croak for what he believed in, and for this the Titans gave him a second chance. To betray the rising force of the Titans would be to turn against everything he lived, and died for.

Archons- Decrypted Archons do what they're told!!! They don't need a reason.
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Re: Torturing Jetstone Line of Succession for Fun and Profit

Postby drachefly » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:17 am

I can see decryting the king, but I'm much less bullish on him being reinstated as leader. Let's take this to Predictamancy.
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Re: Torturing Jetstone Line of Succession for Fun and Profit

Postby ShaneTheBrain » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:08 pm

I slept on it, and you're right. Decrypting the guy whose "leadership" just tanked the kingdom might be worth it for nostalgia and some political reasons reasons (giving citizens a familiar face), but actually putting him back in control? Bad idea. I don't think Trammenis would shrink from doing a better job. He might well keep Slately around as sort of a figurehead or "adviser" for the familiarity while making the actual decisions himself. Better to work out some kind of Alliance with Gowbin Gnob than actually become a pocket kingdom to them.

It's just funny to think that you _could_ reinstate Slately, and have the line of succession go Slately->Trammenis->Decrypted Slately and all the weird side effects that might have.
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